Ramey Rieger (X) Jan 15, 2016:

Live and learn... next time specify in the term line precisely what it is you need help with. Your term search, and what will apear in the glossary, is personenbezogene Merkmale. The issue with 'nur' came up after I had made my suggestion. I then intimated in the discussion box, that it appears under certain conditions, discrimination is permitted. Lancashireman then elucidated, clearing up the confusion.

Anil Kelkar (asker) Jan 15, 2016:

misstated, Michael? This is from my original post: "I need help with the second part of the second sentence, please." I.e. not just "personenbezogene Merkmale". Michael got the points because he came up with the translation of this entire second part. Lancashireman's elucidation helped me understand Michael's explanation (i.e. that certain kinds of discrimination COULD be permitted), for which I have already expressed special thanks. It's not about the "tied to" or "based on" but the "nur". Gosh, is this discussion going to go on much longer? :-)

Michael Martin, MA Jan 15, 2016:

It’s English, Andrew. Or at least good enough by my lowly standards. Rest assured I would not have wasted time posting for the sake of suggesting that “tied to” was a significant improvement over “based on” in this context. In fact, I’d be more than happy to concede points to Ramey on the basis of her significantly more authentic sounding rendering. However, it quickly emerged that wasn’t the real question, which Anil, admittedly, completely misstated it in his entry line. Most translators know how to translate "personenbezogene Merkmale" but nobody seemed to understand the actual sentence in the first place. That was the only interesting part in this for me.

dkfmmuc Jan 15, 2016:

This is just a thumbs up for the Lancashireman and his valuable contribution.

Lancashireman Jan 15, 2016:

discrimination *tied to*: Is this English? Ramey Rieger suggested 'based on' at 7 mins and received the support of four other professional translators. The answer you chose was posted 3 hours later, using the same noun phrase but 'tied to' a significantly less authentic-sounding verb.

Anil Kelkar (asker) Jan 15, 2016:

Points awarded to: I actually needed help with the second part of the sentence, not just the "personenbezogene Merkmale". Many thanks, Ramey Rieger, for confirming what I had in mind. Michael Martin was the first to come up with the entire second part of the sentence. I didn't quite understand his explanation at first, but I know what he meant now. Lancashireman's explanation threw light on the the "only". The points go to Michael Martin, and my thanks go to all who contributed. I hope you will all find the reasoning reasonable.

Lancashireman Jan 14, 2016:

categorisation/ization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethni...

Lancashireman Jan 14, 2016:

Your translation of personenbezogene Merkmale needs to reflect that it is a reference to a strictly defined set of criteria which are presumably listed elsewhere in the document:
wenn sie an eines der personenbezogenen Merkmale anknüpfen > if they are based on one of the above criteria

dkfmmuc Jan 14, 2016:

Thanks for the info, Lancashireman! Appreciated.

Anil Kelkar (asker) Jan 14, 2016:

nur Lancashireman, thank you very much, that makes a lot of sense.

Ramey Rieger (X) Jan 14, 2016:

Sire, well that's a relief! (and clears up that annoying little 'nur')

Lancashireman Jan 14, 2016:

nur The law permits discrimination against candidates on the basis of criminal record, poor references and probably also tattoos. What the law forbids is discrimination on the basis of gender, race or creed (i.e. eines der personenbezogenen Merkmale).

dkfmmuc Jan 14, 2016:

A tiny lnk A link to the foundation of the idea of not discriminating people could help:

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/agg/__1.html

[15:01 CET: The following paragraphs are void]
I think the term "nur" is a mistake in the source. So if there is a way to contact the customer my suggestion is that the ASKER should do this.

Although there are some google links with exactly this phrase it doesn't sound perfect. (From a German-centric perspective).

[EDIT 15:01 CET/Lancashireman has a good explanation for the "nur"]

Ramey Rieger (X) Jan 14, 2016:

Hi Anil Yes, that bothers me. too. As if to say one is allowed to descriminate under other conditions. Is this a translation of a translation? It COULD be a grammatical mistranslation of 'expressly'. The law expressly forbids....

Anil Kelkar (asker) Jan 14, 2016:

"Nur"? I got the personal attributes bit, but it's the "nur" that bothers me.

BrigitteHilgner Jan 14, 2016:

To give you an idea: http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/uebersetzung/personen...