Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dec 3, 2014 18:35
9 yrs ago
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German term
das Ich
German to English
Medical
Psychology
trial of the herbal medicine
For more background on the trial see my previous question:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/...
The report deals with the effects of the herbal preparation on the participants in the trial. Here a few examples:
"Agnus castus beschreibt in dieser Verreibung einen Zustand, in dem sich *das Ich* davor drückt, ein unlösbaren Konflikt zwischen Moral und anderen Ansprüchen auszuleben"
"Heilung dieses Zustandes ist die Bereitschaft, im Sinn der Moral etwas Falsches zu tun, dass sich dabei doch für *das Ich* als richtig erweisen könnte"
So far have found "ego/id/oneself", but am not sure of the tone required for a homoeopathic medicine context.
TIA for your help.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/...
The report deals with the effects of the herbal preparation on the participants in the trial. Here a few examples:
"Agnus castus beschreibt in dieser Verreibung einen Zustand, in dem sich *das Ich* davor drückt, ein unlösbaren Konflikt zwischen Moral und anderen Ansprüchen auszuleben"
"Heilung dieses Zustandes ist die Bereitschaft, im Sinn der Moral etwas Falsches zu tun, dass sich dabei doch für *das Ich* als richtig erweisen könnte"
So far have found "ego/id/oneself", but am not sure of the tone required for a homoeopathic medicine context.
TIA for your help.
Proposed translations
(English)
4 | the "I" | SuzukiBandit |
4 +3 | the ego | Donald Jacobson |
3 +2 | the (higher) Self | Ramey Rieger (X) |
Change log
Dec 17, 2014 09:08: SuzukiBandit Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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the "I"
Just another option. The choice of term will depend on the worldview in question.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ego
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ego
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+3
2 mins
the ego
Freud's term
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Yes, the immediate context is psychology, not homeopathy. http://dict.leo.org/#/search=ich&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=bas...
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Thanks, Phil! As a psychiatrist I'd better get that one right.LOL
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Stephen Sadie
: was also my spontaneous thought
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Thanks, Stephen!
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Michael Martin, MA
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Thanks, Michael!
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Jacek Konopka
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Thanks, Jacek!
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Ramey Rieger (X)
: There is absolutely no need to get offensive. These are two different schools of thought and two different approaches to healing. Unfortunately, the concept that one is psychobabble and the other correct is simply absurd. But not uncommon.
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You are so fundamentally wrong. German has a word for the Self as so complicatedly described by Heinz Kohut and the Chicago Psychoanalytic Institute. Many of my professors and immediate supervisors were Freud and Kohut scholars. Your psychobabble is wrong
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the (higher) Self
I beg to differ, as the ego is a Freudian term and hereby, the Self is the stronger/better/greater guide toward healing. The ego is more often the perpetrator of woes due to it's undeveloped emotional/spiritual intelligence/growth. The Self or soul guides us to our own personal reality/morality, morality quite often being the weapon wielded to instill guilt and conditioning us not to listen to the Self. The ego creates the survival mechanisms to protect us, but they must/should/can essentially, as we grow older, be discarded in order to find true healing or unification of body, mind, emotion and spirit.
Peer comment(s):
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Donald Jacobson
: I practiced Self and Depth Psychological Therapy for 30 years. Your concepts and mine have been and will be disputed for many years to come. The ego is still the correct translation unless the self is used, but what is a higher self in practice?
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That which guides you beyond ego.
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philgoddard
: This is an alternative to Donald's answer, but you should not have disagreed with his.
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But Phil, it is not an alternative to 'ego' but something altogether different.
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billcorno (X)
: I can't think how homeopathy would use or include psychology in its methods.
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Ah, but it does, billcorno, just from another perspective.
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Lancashireman
: And he also plays a church organ.
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Thank you Sir Andrew!
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Edith Kelly
: w/o higher
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Thank you and a good morning to you, Edith! Take care of your Self :-)//Yes
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Discussion
In classic homeopathy and alternative healing we often strive to surmount ego in the belief it hinders 'true' healing. The Self is that elusive being that wishes unity of our various aspects, instigating confrontation with 'life's issues' in order to heal, and grow to be better human beings. The ego, in this particular school of thought, is what has evolved from our conditioning and what we usually consider our 'identity' - the more rigid this identification, the more we insist on its absoluteness, the less healing can take place. I would ask the client which term is appropriate in this case, as it is an ideological term.