Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

das Ich

English translation:

the "I"

Added to glossary by SuzukiBandit
Dec 3, 2014 18:35
9 yrs ago
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German term

das Ich

German to English Medical Psychology trial of the herbal medicine
For more background on the trial see my previous question:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/...

The report deals with the effects of the herbal preparation on the participants in the trial. Here a few examples:
"Agnus castus beschreibt in dieser Verreibung einen Zustand, in dem sich *das Ich* davor drückt, ein unlösbaren Konflikt zwischen Moral und anderen Ansprüchen auszuleben"
"Heilung dieses Zustandes ist die Bereitschaft, im Sinn der Moral etwas Falsches zu tun, dass sich dabei doch für *das Ich* als richtig erweisen könnte"

So far have found "ego/id/oneself", but am not sure of the tone required for a homoeopathic medicine context.
TIA for your help.
Proposed translations (English)
4 the "I"
4 +3 the ego
3 +2 the (higher) Self
Change log

Dec 17, 2014 09:08: SuzukiBandit Created KOG entry

Discussion

Ramey Rieger (X) Dec 4, 2014:
@Anne Yes, that's the problem. The example is relatively common one - if I enjoy dancing naked and growling like a bear, I am morally suspicious - to myself, and heaven forbid if I get caught doing it. But it is exactly this that brings me freedom and joy, opening my heart and mind, expanding and healing, if only temporarily, my morally correct concept of myself, which is very good for my Self. Sticky business, for sure. The Self can certainly be reticent to dive into dilemmas, but it always knows what is good because it is not driven by ego (possessions, reputation, social status, religious or political dictates, etc.), but by a desire to be 'connected' to the whole.
Anne Schulz Dec 4, 2014:
@Ramey That's what makes it so confusing: based on this concept, it is probably the Ego that shirks, and the Self which benefits form healing – but in both cases, the text uses "das Ich".
Ramey Rieger (X) Dec 4, 2014:
Good morning Jonathan! This is a much disputed term and depends on the author's perspective.
In classic homeopathy and alternative healing we often strive to surmount ego in the belief it hinders 'true' healing. The Self is that elusive being that wishes unity of our various aspects, instigating confrontation with 'life's issues' in order to heal, and grow to be better human beings. The ego, in this particular school of thought, is what has evolved from our conditioning and what we usually consider our 'identity' - the more rigid this identification, the more we insist on its absoluteness, the less healing can take place. I would ask the client which term is appropriate in this case, as it is an ideological term.

Proposed translations

14 hrs
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the "I"

Just another option. The choice of term will depend on the worldview in question.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ego
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+3
2 mins

the ego

Freud's term
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : Yes, the immediate context is psychology, not homeopathy. http://dict.leo.org/#/search=ich&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=bas...
0 min
Thanks, Phil! As a psychiatrist I'd better get that one right.LOL
agree Stephen Sadie : was also my spontaneous thought
11 mins
Thanks, Stephen!
agree Michael Martin, MA
22 mins
Thanks, Michael!
agree Jacek Konopka
24 mins
Thanks, Jacek!
disagree Ramey Rieger (X) : There is absolutely no need to get offensive. These are two different schools of thought and two different approaches to healing. Unfortunately, the concept that one is psychobabble and the other correct is simply absurd. But not uncommon.
55 mins
You are so fundamentally wrong. German has a word for the Self as so complicatedly described by Heinz Kohut and the Chicago Psychoanalytic Institute. Many of my professors and immediate supervisors were Freud and Kohut scholars. Your psychobabble is wrong
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+2
55 mins

the (higher) Self

I beg to differ, as the ego is a Freudian term and hereby, the Self is the stronger/better/greater guide toward healing. The ego is more often the perpetrator of woes due to it's undeveloped emotional/spiritual intelligence/growth. The Self or soul guides us to our own personal reality/morality, morality quite often being the weapon wielded to instill guilt and conditioning us not to listen to the Self. The ego creates the survival mechanisms to protect us, but they must/should/can essentially, as we grow older, be discarded in order to find true healing or unification of body, mind, emotion and spirit.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Donald Jacobson : I practiced Self and Depth Psychological Therapy for 30 years. Your concepts and mine have been and will be disputed for many years to come. The ego is still the correct translation unless the self is used, but what is a higher self in practice?
32 mins
That which guides you beyond ego.
neutral philgoddard : This is an alternative to Donald's answer, but you should not have disagreed with his.
1 hr
But Phil, it is not an alternative to 'ego' but something altogether different.
agree billcorno (X) : I can't think how homeopathy would use or include psychology in its methods.
4 hrs
Ah, but it does, billcorno, just from another perspective.
agree Lancashireman : And he also plays a church organ.
5 hrs
Thank you Sir Andrew!
agree Edith Kelly : w/o higher
12 hrs
Thank you and a good morning to you, Edith! Take care of your Self :-)//Yes
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