Inserting German quotation marks in Studio
Thread poster: Sebastian Witte
Sebastian Witte
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Oct 1, 2022

Hi,

To meet my customer's QA requirements for the return package, I would like to know how to insert German quotation marks in Trados Studio 2022.

Not simple ones - double ones, i.e. „dog". Even here, I'm having problems with it, as you can see.

Best regards,

Sebastian Witte

[Edited at 2022-10-01 14:40 GMT]


 
Michael Beijer
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HoldKey or AutoHotkey script Oct 1, 2022

I generally recommend using a special tool like HoldKey to insert spatial characters, which works in any program on your computer.

see: https://holdkey.eu/

Or an AutoKey script, which is how I currently do it.

inserting misc special characters with AutoHotkey

Put single, curly quotes around selection

Michael


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Samuel Murray
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So Oct 1, 2022

So, these two?
„“

If you already have quotes, can't you just use find/replace? (Or did you use straight quotes?).


[Edited at 2022-10-01 15:00 GMT]


 
Sebastian Witte
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99 66 Oct 1, 2022

Samuel Murray wrote:

So, these two?
„“


No, actually, I mean 99 66. I can't even reproduce them using the Windows character map.

[Edited at 2022-10-01 16:14 GMT]


 
Darius Sciuka
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There is a button for that Oct 1, 2022

You can find the Apply German Quotes icon on the Home - QuickInsert ribbon. The default shortcut is Ctrl+Shift+4. It puts a pair of German quotation marks around your selection or around the cursor if nothing is selected.

Windows character codes are Alt+0132 and Alt+0147.

[Edited at 2022-10-01 23:51 GMT]


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What I need is to be able to write, for example, „dog”. Oct 1, 2022

Extra Keys can do it using Copy and Paste.

 
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I received some additional help from the RWS Community Oct 1, 2022

You are to switch on SmartQuotes under AutoCorrect in Options. However, I think for editing this might not work. You can also use the QuickInsert menu to put the German quotes in, they say.

By the way, those keyboard shortcuts (see above) did not work on my computer. Ctrl + Shift + 4 did work in the end though, when I highlighted the whole word.

[Edited at 2022-10-01 18:36 GMT]


 
Stepan Konev
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Try Ctrl+Shift+4 Oct 1, 2022

Select a word and press Ctrl+Shift+4.

Oh, sorry... It was already mentioned above.

[Edited at 2022-10-01 18:37 GMT]


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Darius Sciuka
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Keyboard codes Oct 1, 2022

My mistake, forgot to add leading zeros, it should be Alt+0132 and Alt 0147. It is fixed now in my above post.

 
Matthias Brombach
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@Sebastian Oct 2, 2022

The solution could be „Carlinga“, a hotkey tool for Windows (still running in W10). Have a look at an earlier post on proz:

https://www.proz.com/forum/trados_support/215158-studio_2011_how_to_insert_unicode_characters_8206_and_8207_for_ltr_rtl.html#1904854

I don't know where t
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The solution could be „Carlinga“, a hotkey tool for Windows (still running in W10). Have a look at an earlier post on proz:

https://www.proz.com/forum/trados_support/215158-studio_2011_how_to_insert_unicode_characters_8206_and_8207_for_ltr_rtl.html#1904854

I don't know where to download that tool today, but you may contact me by PM and I'm happy to send it to you.
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Sebastian Witte
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Eventually found the QuickInsert menu, too Oct 2, 2022

Thanks to Darius' post, here is a screenshot of where you can find it. It is quite prominently placed, actually.

QuickInsert menu



[Edited at 2022-10-02 08:06 GMT]


 
Hans Lenting
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My approach Oct 2, 2022

I tried many ways to insert/adjust quotation marks during the translation phase, but finally settled on using a regular expression during quality control to get all the quotation marks right.

 
Samuel Murray
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Holdkey etc. Oct 2, 2022

Michael Beijer wrote:
I generally recommend using a special tool like HoldKey to insert spatial characters, which works in any program on your computer.

Yes, so according to this character map, to insert German quotes using Holdkey would require you to press-and-hold Q, then type 8 for the opening quote, or press-and-hold Q, then type 7 for the closing quote. Or with the Pro version (which costs $7), you can press Win+Shift+" for the opening quote and Win+Shift+} for the closing quote.

I use an AutoIt script to insert smart quotes. I've also added the German quote to my script. But writing an AHK script like the one Michael suggests is simpler.

[Edited at 2022-10-02 09:17 GMT]


 
Hans Lenting
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Mac Oct 2, 2022

Samuel Murray wrote:

But writing an AHK script like the one Michael suggests is simpler.


To make this complete: Mac users can use the solution posted here. Of course, keyboard shortcuts can be assigned to the quotation marks.

Just tested this solution for Trados 2022 in Fusion: since Windows intercepts the keyboard shortcuts, the nice palette cannot be used there.


 


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