Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
arquitectura conventual
English translation:
conventual architecture
Added to glossary by
chita rosales
Nov 5, 2012 06:25
11 yrs ago
Spanish term
arquitectura conventual
Spanish to English
Tech/Engineering
Architecture
Architecture of Churches, convents, and hospices
My question is , which is better, conven architecture or conventual architecture? The topic not only covers convents but churches, and hospices. The period covered is the 17th century. My target readers are Philippine historians.
Proposed translations
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| 3 | conventual architecture |
Cyril B.
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| 4 +6 | monastic (or monastical) architecture |
Luis Rey Ballesteros (Luiroi)
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Change log
Nov 5, 2012 09:37: Ruth Wöhlk changed "Language pair" from "English to Spanish" to "Spanish to English"
Proposed translations
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conventual architecture
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From that 2nd reference, I think that there's probably a material difference between convent architecture and monastery architecture :)
"Hills's study concentrates on the development and change of conventual architecture in Naples after the Council of Trent."
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/439
"Conventual Architecture as Metaphor for the Body"
http://books.google.com/books/about/Invisible_City.html?id=h...
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works for UNESCO:
"UNESCO also praised it for being 'one of the most coherent examples of conventual architecture of the Carolingian period and the Early Middle Ages.'"
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/switzerland/mustair-conve...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2012-11-05 09:44:38 GMT)
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From that 2nd reference, I think that there's probably a material difference between convent architecture and monastery architecture :)
"Hills's study concentrates on the development and change of conventual architecture in Naples after the Council of Trent."
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/439
"Conventual Architecture as Metaphor for the Body"
http://books.google.com/books/about/Invisible_City.html?id=h...
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works for UNESCO:
"UNESCO also praised it for being 'one of the most coherent examples of conventual architecture of the Carolingian period and the Early Middle Ages.'"
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/switzerland/mustair-conve...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks. I felt conventual was more appropriate for my work than monastic."
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20 mins
Luis Rey Ballesteros (Luiroi)
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Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
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22
monastic (or monastical) architecture
Hope you find it helpful.
The cloister in the landscape : monastic architecture in England to ...
sunzi.lib.hku.hk/ER/detail/hkul/4083737
The cloister in the landscape : monastic architecture in England to 1174. Click to view the dissertation via Digital dissertation consortium. Author, Evalds, Valija ...
Remains Of Ancient Monastic Architecture In England: Represented ...
www.amazon.co.uk › ... › 1801-1900 › 1841-1850
Remains Of Ancient Monastic Architecture In England: Represented In A Series Of Views, Plans, Elevations, Sections & Details With Historical And Descriptive ...
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San Augustine Church and Museum | Philippine Culture and ...
philippinecultureandheritage.org/.../san-agustin-church-and-m...
It is the sole surviving church of monastic architecture in the Philippines [18]. The patron saint is St. Paul but by tradition the church is called San Agustine.
Al Perez - Artworks - Churches
alperezsite.com/al03a.html
San Agustin Church is considered the most outstanding archetype of colonial monastic architecture in the Philippines. It is also a World Heritage Site. MINALIN ...
The cloister in the landscape : monastic architecture in England to ...
sunzi.lib.hku.hk/ER/detail/hkul/4083737
The cloister in the landscape : monastic architecture in England to 1174. Click to view the dissertation via Digital dissertation consortium. Author, Evalds, Valija ...
Remains Of Ancient Monastic Architecture In England: Represented ...
www.amazon.co.uk › ... › 1801-1900 › 1841-1850
Remains Of Ancient Monastic Architecture In England: Represented In A Series Of Views, Plans, Elevations, Sections & Details With Historical And Descriptive ...
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Note added at 23 minutos (2012-11-05 06:49:05 GMT)
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San Augustine Church and Museum | Philippine Culture and ...
philippinecultureandheritage.org/.../san-agustin-church-and-m...
It is the sole surviving church of monastic architecture in the Philippines [18]. The patron saint is St. Paul but by tradition the church is called San Agustine.
Al Perez - Artworks - Churches
alperezsite.com/al03a.html
San Agustin Church is considered the most outstanding archetype of colonial monastic architecture in the Philippines. It is also a World Heritage Site. MINALIN ...
Peer comment(s):
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Cristina Gonzalez
1 hr
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Thanks, Cristina!
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| agree |
Charles Davis
: Monastic, not monastical
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Thanks, Charles!
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| agree |
fionn
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Thank you, fionn!
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Evans (X)
: Agree with Charles, not monastical.
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Ok and thanks, Gilla!
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| agree |
Richard Hill
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Thank you, rich.!
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Muses Inc
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Thanks, Muses!
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Discussion
http://books.google.es/books?id=6zeO8H2tYWcC&pg=PA256&lpg=PA...
but it is fairly unusual nowadays. In most cases it is either a calque of the Spanish expression "arquitectura conventual", or it refers specifically to the architecture of convents rather than monasteries:
http://books.google.es/books?id=oCmOEADgZCYC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA...
Be careful in using the term "convent" in English: it refers specifically to a place for nuns, women, whereas in Spanish, "convento" can apply either to nuns or monks (women or men). So "convento" should sometimes be translated as "monastery" and not as "convent".