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Nov 25, 2022 10:19
1 yr ago
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Spanish term

poder especial de administración y disposición

Spanish to English Law/Patents Real Estate
Is this distinct (broader?) to special power of attorney? How to reflect the administration and disposition elements in the English?

Confiero PODER ESPECIAL DE ADMINISTRACION Y DISPOSICION, amplio y suficiente, a los ciudadanos
Proposed translations (English)
4 -1 special power of attorney
1 +1 special or specific power of attorney for administration and disposition [of real property]
References
special power of administratioón and disposition

Discussion

Robert Carter Nov 25, 2022:
@Phil Ok, for example, if you were asked to translate "certificado de defunción" and you just translated it as "certificate" because, well, in your opinion, it's a certificate, no need to say exactly what it's certifying.

Power of attorney just means "authorization to act on someone's behalf," it doesn't necessarily mean administrating or disposing of things:

"A power of attorney (POA) or letter of attorney is a written authorization to represent or act on another's behalf in private affairs (which may be financial or regarding health and welfare), business, or some other legal matter. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_attorney

FYI, "disposition" doesn't just mean "arranging stuff":

"What does disposition mean in business?

In business, disposition may refer either to "the transfer of property from one to another by any of various means including gift, barter, sale, or will" or to “the plan for or method by which such a transfer is executed.”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disposition

Now, not all PoAs allow the agent to both administrate and get rid of the principal's property, so yes, your translation comes up short.

That any clearer?

Proposed translations

+1
3 hrs

special or specific power of attorney for administration and disposition [of real property]

SPECIAL POWER OF ATTORNEY
https://www.philcongen-toronto.com › docs › SP...
PDF
To sign and execute any and all documents of sale, transfer or conveyance of the aforementioned property;. To pay any and all unpaid or accrued property taxes ...
1 page

Power of Attorney Form | Free POA Forms (US) - Law
Depot.comhttps://www.lawdepot.com › contracts › power-of-attorne...
Jul 20, 2022 — A Specific Power of Attorney provides an attorney-in-fact with the control to make decisions for a particular purpose (e.g., buying or selling a ...

SAMPLE POWER OF ATTORNEY AND EXPLANATORY NOTES
https://lautorite.qc.ca › procuration-simple-an
PDF
How should the powers given to your mandatary be described? (sections E and F of the sample ... Power of Attorney for the Administration of Property. Sample.
27 pages

POWER OF ATTORNEY – GENERAL [includes optional ...
https://www.lavote.gov › documents › power-of-a...
PDF
(b) To exercise any or all of the following powers as to real property, ... acquisition or disposition of real or personal property, my said Attorney shall ...
3 pages
Peer comment(s):
neutral philgoddard : "For administration and disposition" is redundant in my opinion. That's what powers of attorney are for.
20 mins
Thanks, also for your peer comment!
agree Adrian MM. : vs. .. of stewardship & dealing (in land) https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/special-power-attorney.... and ignore our legally unqualified ProZ accountants' ignorant comments. Spelling out the specific purposes of the PoA is *NOT* redundant, but crucial
1 hr
Thanks, also for your peer comment!
neutral Andrew Bramhall : Agree with Phil; and whilst a welcome change from Adrian's habitual Scottish law quotes, Indian law unlikely to be key here for an asker based in Northern Ireland,even with target audience left unstated..
2 hrs
Thanks, also for your peer comment! There are also some Canadian law sources included here for an asker based in Northern Ireland.
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-1
3 hrs

special power of attorney

I don't know why they've chosen this particular form of words, but it sounds exactly like a power of attorney to me. A literal translation sounds weird.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2022-11-25 19:10:24 GMT)
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A power of attorney is an authorisation to administer something on behalf of something else, hence "administración". "Disponer" has a similar meaning - the idea is "to arrange". These two terms don't add anything to the meaning - you just need to say power of attorney.
http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=disp...
Peer comment(s):
agree Andrew Bramhall : Just boils down to this;
2 hrs
Thanks, and I loved your comment about Scottish law
neutral Robert Carter : No, that's not right. I've read enough of these to know that they're granted for different purposes, why else would they be qualified as "general" and "special"? Some are specifically for management, for litigation and collection, for labor suits, etc.
3 hrs
I don't understand your comment - this is clearly not a general power of attorney.
disagree Adrian MM. : your fixation with redundancies is getting the better of your answers and verging close on *prof. negligence*. A spec. PofA is for certain tasks & purposes, rather than others. // 'Every word in the ST must be accounted for.', Newmark.
4 hrs
It's not a 'fixation' - you revel in redundancy, I think it's bad writing. And I know what a special power of attorney is.//Yes, accounted for, not included word-for-word in the translation.
neutral AllegroTrans : A whole host of POAs are special POAs; in asker's context, more specificity is needed
7 days
disagree José Julián Díaz : Your answer is ambiguous.
44 days
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Reference comments

44 mins
Reference:

special power of administratioón and disposition

attorney: special power of administratioón and disposition - https://lanselllegal.com.au/services/civil/impaired-capacity...
The enduring power of attorney continues to operate after the person ceases to be of sound mind; section 105 of the Guardian and Administration -
A special power of attorney is a legal document that authorizes one person, called an agent or an attorney in fact, to act on behalf of another person, known as the principal, under specific, clearly laid-out circumstances. - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/special-power-attorney....
powers, are distinct from dispositions: For typical scientific properties, the
same power figures in the truth-maker of many disposition attributions. In a second
step, I argue that laws are required over and above powers, as constituents of the truthmakers of disposition attributions. - https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-02559629/document
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