Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Apr 5, 2023 09:00
1 yr ago
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French term
bobine mère
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Engineering (general)
Packaging machines
Context:
Contrôler l’ensemble des échantillons qui correspondent à un prélèvement, de chaque bobine mère transmis par le fournisseur.
This has been translated as "master coil", but is it a coil, a roll, a reel, a bobbin
My choice is mother roll but if anybody with inside knowledge of the paper industry is out there, confirmation would be appreciated.
TIA Chris.
Contrôler l’ensemble des échantillons qui correspondent à un prélèvement, de chaque bobine mère transmis par le fournisseur.
This has been translated as "master coil", but is it a coil, a roll, a reel, a bobbin
My choice is mother roll but if anybody with inside knowledge of the paper industry is out there, confirmation would be appreciated.
TIA Chris.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | mother reel |
Bourth
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| 5 +3 | Parent reel |
AKAH OKWEN ARNOLD FLORENT
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| 3 | mother reel |
Cristina Serbanescu
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| 1 | parent spool |
Ana Vozone
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Proposed translations
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mother reel
It looks to me as if pretty much anything goes:
3.49.2
mother roll
mother reel
parent roll
parent reel
large roll of tissue paper (3.58), wound up on the winding station, covering either the full width or part of the width of the tissue machine
Note 1 to entry: When the mother reel/roll covers the full width of the machine it is also called a jumbo reel/roll.
[ISO 12625-1:2019(en) Tissue paper and tissue products — Part 1: Vocabulary]
https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:12625:-1:ed-3:v1:en
This ISO standard is for tissue paper, however. Things might be different for packaging paper (presumably you are dealing with paper for making corrugated cardboard, etc.).
"MASTER ROLL
Also called a “Mother Reel” or “Mill Roll”, a master roll designates the larger rolls from which thermal laminate films are manufactured in. Slitting, or converting, is the process of reducing a master roll to usable sizes."
https://nobelusuniversity.com/2017/03/12/a-glossary-of-lamin...
This concerns plastic laminates, not creation of multi-layer paper boards
The next example relates to sampling, so in that respect is in line with your text that refers to prélèvements, and concerns 'paper and board' which sounds like packaging material.
"cross direction sample
CD sample
cut from edge to edge of a mother reel or post winder reel in the cross direction (CD), having a width in the machine direction (MD) appropriate for the tests to be carried out
ISO 18522:2016(en) Paper and board — Automated off-line testing of physical properties for CD (cross direction) profiles"
https://dgn.isolutions.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:std:iso:18522:ed-1...
Again, it's an ISO standard whose terminology can at least by justified, even if it might be at odds with the term as she is spoke on the shop floor.
3.49.2
mother roll
mother reel
parent roll
parent reel
large roll of tissue paper (3.58), wound up on the winding station, covering either the full width or part of the width of the tissue machine
Note 1 to entry: When the mother reel/roll covers the full width of the machine it is also called a jumbo reel/roll.
[ISO 12625-1:2019(en) Tissue paper and tissue products — Part 1: Vocabulary]
https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:12625:-1:ed-3:v1:en
This ISO standard is for tissue paper, however. Things might be different for packaging paper (presumably you are dealing with paper for making corrugated cardboard, etc.).
"MASTER ROLL
Also called a “Mother Reel” or “Mill Roll”, a master roll designates the larger rolls from which thermal laminate films are manufactured in. Slitting, or converting, is the process of reducing a master roll to usable sizes."
https://nobelusuniversity.com/2017/03/12/a-glossary-of-lamin...
This concerns plastic laminates, not creation of multi-layer paper boards
The next example relates to sampling, so in that respect is in line with your text that refers to prélèvements, and concerns 'paper and board' which sounds like packaging material.
"cross direction sample
CD sample
cut from edge to edge of a mother reel or post winder reel in the cross direction (CD), having a width in the machine direction (MD) appropriate for the tests to be carried out
ISO 18522:2016(en) Paper and board — Automated off-line testing of physical properties for CD (cross direction) profiles"
https://dgn.isolutions.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:std:iso:18522:ed-1...
Again, it's an ISO standard whose terminology can at least by justified, even if it might be at odds with the term as she is spoke on the shop floor.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
45 mins
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philgoddard
: If anything goes, and 'parent reel' is one of the options, we had that four hours ago.
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I'm just the websearcher in this circus, don't expect me to come up with the definitive answer in every case. Apart from that, read to the end.
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Johannes Gleim
: The only one well supported by references, including the relevant ISO standard with definitions.
2 days 19 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you."
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6 mins
AKAH OKWEN ARNOLD FLORENT
Cameroon
Cameroon
Native in English
Cameroon
PT/FR>English Professional translator
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, English to French, Portuguese to English
Parent reel
Large roll of tissue paper, wound up on the reel winding station, covering the full width of the tissue paper machine.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
5 hrs
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| agree |
Kimberly Wastler
: Definitely at the paper plant (what comes off the machine before slitting).. Converters may use "master reel/roll/coil" depending on what they make.
9 hrs
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| agree |
Anastasia Kalantzi
1 day 13 hrs
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| neutral |
Johannes Gleim
: I miss references.
3 days 37 mins
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1 hr
Ana Vozone
Will do!
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: European/Portugal)
Works in: English to Portuguese, French to Portuguese, German to Portuguese, and 1 more.
parent spool
Another suggestion.
https://www.google.com/search?q="parent spool" "packaging"&s...
https://www.google.com/search?q="parent spool" &sxsrf=APwXEd...
https://www.google.com/search?q="parent spool" "packaging"&s...
https://www.google.com/search?q="parent spool" &sxsrf=APwXEd...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Andrew Bramhall
: That's how I see it too;
24 mins
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Thank you, Andrew!
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Johannes Gleim
: Sorry, but 'spools' are applicable for wires, but not for paper reels. Unfortunately no relevant reference cited.
2 days 23 hrs
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7 hrs
Cristina Serbanescu
Romania
Romania
Specializes in field
Romania
FREN, FRRO and ENRO Translator
Native in: Romanian 
Works in: English to French, French to English
mother reel
It depends on the larger context of the text.
I have found that mother reel is something like this :
https://ec.europa.eu/ecat/product/en/927719/tissue-paper-and...
As for master roll, it seems more linked to an use inside a printer :
https://en.exploriso.info/exploriso/printing/the-paper-feed-...
I hope it helps.
I have found that mother reel is something like this :
https://ec.europa.eu/ecat/product/en/927719/tissue-paper-and...
As for master roll, it seems more linked to an use inside a printer :
https://en.exploriso.info/exploriso/printing/the-paper-feed-...
I hope it helps.
Example sentence:
\'mother reel\' would seem the correct translation in this case
Reference:
https://ec.europa.eu/ecat/product/en/927719/tissue-paper-and-tissue-p-mother-reel-mixed-cellulo
https://en.exploriso.info/exploriso/printing/the-paper-feed-adjustment-wheel/
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Johannes Gleim
: Also well referenced
2 days 16 hrs
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| disagree |
SafeTex
: This answer was posted 3 hours earlier
3 days 21 hrs
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Discussion
mother roll/mother reel/parent roll/parent reel;
Bobine brute (non rebobinée): jumbo roll/reel // master roll/reel
bobine brute/bobine mère: Bobine provenant directement de l'usine. (GDT)
Routledge (French Technical Dictionary Dictionnaire technique anglai, mars 2006 - 816 pages) & ISO (Tissue paper and tissue products)