Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
two-form-entry school
Albanian translation:
shkollë me dy klasa paralele
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Αlban SHPΑTΑ
Feb 10, 2010 04:42
14 yrs ago
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English term
two-form-entry school
English to Albanian
Social Sciences
Education / Pedagogy
XX School is a two-form-entry school.
Proposed translations
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4 +2 | me dy klasa paralele | Fabiana Papastefani-Pezzoni |
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Feb 12, 2010 08:58: Fabiana Papastefani-Pezzoni Created KOG entry
Feb 12, 2010 14:12: Αlban SHPΑTΑ changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/10551">Fabiana Papastefani-Pezzoni's</a> old entry - "two-form-entry school"" to ""me dy klasa paralele""
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me dy klasa paralele
Albani, I am almost positive that we are speaking about schools who allow two (there are schools that allow more) parallel classes of the same grade. Now in Albania this is the most common thing in the world, but in schools in UK and US (private ones here or of small communities, catchment schools, etc) this is done not only to address the number of children, but some times it is done as a manoeuvre in order to become an "integrating" school, meaning allowing for SEN children (Special Education Needs) or gifted and talented children to be supported across a larger year-group.
There are many reasons behind such decision for such schools in these countries. As I said, in Albanian this is very common and only very small villages schools are one-entry schools, but in other countries this is seen also as an attempt to integrate in the society SEN children, as they: a) may not have a chance to go to a Special school which is not hundreds of miles away from home; and b) integration in the society starts from the school. These schools with some more efforts (employing SEN or two-entry teachers) can accomodate such needs of the community and create an integration climate in it.
Viewed from the point of view of a teacher, the two or three entry schools, even when you do not have so much children as to have two full parallel classes, is done so when you have far too different levels in the same grade, so a) you make smaller classes to be able to work more closely with each of them; b) mix the children of the two classes as per their levels when doing math or language to address their needs at a better level. This is what we do at the school where I teach.
Hope it helps.
There are many reasons behind such decision for such schools in these countries. As I said, in Albanian this is very common and only very small villages schools are one-entry schools, but in other countries this is seen also as an attempt to integrate in the society SEN children, as they: a) may not have a chance to go to a Special school which is not hundreds of miles away from home; and b) integration in the society starts from the school. These schools with some more efforts (employing SEN or two-entry teachers) can accomodate such needs of the community and create an integration climate in it.
Viewed from the point of view of a teacher, the two or three entry schools, even when you do not have so much children as to have two full parallel classes, is done so when you have far too different levels in the same grade, so a) you make smaller classes to be able to work more closely with each of them; b) mix the children of the two classes as per their levels when doing math or language to address their needs at a better level. This is what we do at the school where I teach.
Hope it helps.
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Ledja
: Shumë e vërtetë, Fabiana. (Ç'më ke hyrë në hise me këtë pyetje!:) ) Në Angli, shumica e shkollave fillore kanë vetëm një klasë për grupmoshë. Shkolla ku punoj unë ka nga dy - dhe numri ka qenë i tillë historikisht.//Thumbs-up të merituar për përgjigjen :)
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Prita unë i shkreti, pastaj po më hanin duart dhe shkorva përgjigjen. Unë mezi po prisja të hyje që të dëgjoja mendimin tënd meqënëse në këto gjëra ty të kemi yllin e fushës.
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Klementina Shahini
: My explanation is posted on post discussion entry.
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You are again wrong, Klemi!! You are saying forms are grades?? Really?? My God!!
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Eva T
: Pa dyshim që ky është përkthimi i saktë!
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Falemnderit, Eva :)
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Monika Coulson
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Comment: "Thanks"
Discussion
In regards to the SEN inclusion policies, I see that Fabiana has a different experience in her country and that's why I explained how it is in mine.
Sixth-form has nothing to do with form-entries whatsoever. It's a higher level of studies with self-chosen subjects, sort of pre-university. To be honest, I haven't a clue where the naming originates from :), but this is also a very common set-up in the very common secondary schools.
Forest Park Primary School is also a normal school, but it has gained publicity due to embracing "green" issues and arranging the outside area of the school to be a natural environment - this is the only special thing about it. (My school is still better though :D)))
I as have said in my earlier entry, I would not assume what the school set-up is in America, but regarding Britain, I've quite a lot to share from having been specially trained by the Education Department, having done supply work and bilingual support work in over 20 schools in and outside London for nearly 10 years and having translated numerous school brochures for 6 years and counting. This statement:
"this kind of schools have different criteria comparing with traditional schools"
couldn't be further from the truth. ALL traditional primary schools in this country are labelled as one ore two form entry, with the exception of a few that go beyond that number. Try putting this as a monolingual English question and, if you don't receive the exact explanations as mine, I will drop dead on the spot :). We don't usually hear secondary school being called as x-form entry, because they vary quite a lot in the number of classes per year group.
"The school was originally built as a two-form entry school, i.e. two classes
per year group. Therefore it has existing capacity and expansion would
present no significant challenges".
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/school_places_jan09.pdf
To my opinion the concept of two form entry school is the same in both countries USA &GB, the organization of them though is a little bit different here in the states comparing with GB. As you have mentioned in your discussion and based on the link you provided this kind of schools have different criteria comparing with traditional schools. "Me dy klasa paralele" concept is so closely attached to the traditional school. This is where my disagreement comes from. It doesn’t come from the disability of understanding what a two form entry schools are. Probably my suggestion is not the right one but either the one presented from the other answerer. Definitely, I think that we need to come up with another translation. This is just my opinion. Opinions are not facts but yet they need to be respected.
There are reasons why I did not put an answer.
Best Regards,
Klemi
"The school is a two form entry school comprising of a Foundation Stage, Key Stage 1 and Key Stage 2."
"School Council - made up of one child from each class from year 2 -year 6."
The sentences are just to illustrate examples of year groups within this two form entry school. Foundation Stage includes Nursery and Reception (Pre-school). Key Stage 1: Years 1 and 2. Key stage 2: Years 3 - 6. This is the set-up in all schools across GB, but not all of them include nursery classes.
Alban, if you still have doubts :), I can shoot a 60-page PDF brochure your way from Westminster City Council that has details of all the schools in the catchment area. Don't make me! :D
I hope I have set all of this out clearly. Sorry I don't have time to provide links, but can do so when I return home.
The way it is used at the schools where I teach it refers to the different entries of the same grade.