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What is your favorite Chinese poem?
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Kvasir
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palindromic poems May 20, 2003

There are at least 3 different types of palindromic poems that i\'ve seen in alphabetic languages.



- palindromic poem (the entire poem is palindromic)

- word-unit palindrome (palindromic by individual words)

- palindromic verses (each line a palindrome)



A simple google search will give you plenty of examples of palindromic poems.



The following site has examples fo
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There are at least 3 different types of palindromic poems that i\'ve seen in alphabetic languages.



- palindromic poem (the entire poem is palindromic)

- word-unit palindrome (palindromic by individual words)

- palindromic verses (each line a palindrome)



A simple google search will give you plenty of examples of palindromic poems.



The following site has examples for the first two (english).

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/yodabeavis/recipe/



\"Lives Evil\" (reprinted from the website)



Evil am I.

Evil,

as so to die not sane.



Menace I lay.

A stab mocks.

I revolt.



No din is still.

I kidnap and I kill.

It�s sin I don�t love.



Risk combat.

Say a lie.

Cane men.



A stone I do toss!

Alive,

I�m alive.



- Mike Maguire





Palindromic poems in french: (watchout for annoying background .wav!)

http://worldserver2.oleane.com/fatrazie/palindromes.htm



one example from the site...



A classic sonnet



Oh ce las r�ve-ci verra ce liard note

Jette certes un train seul brio va-t\'en s�r

Oh couds nasse du tea nou� f�tu obscur

T�te r�le: tu as ce suaire menotte



L\'�ge vir� d\'aura Priape le canote

Me visse lamell� et ici le f�mur

B�ton gong alert�, dr�le, teint n\'a ni mur

Ruminant ni �t� l\'or d\'�tre la gnognote



Brume f�licit� elle m\'a lessiv�

Met-on � cel� pair paru � d�riv� ?

Galet ton �meri au sec saute l\'ar�te



Trucs boutefeu on a �tudes sans duo

Chorus ne t\'avoir blues ni art - nus et recette -

Je tondrai le carr� vice versa l\'�cho





A collection of Chinese palindromic poems: (also watch out for annoying background .wav!)

http://www.anxiteaco.com/clyq/csdffxs2.html



-kvasir

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Thanks. May 20, 2003

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On 2003-05-20 01:07, Kvasir wrote:

There are at least 3 different types of palindromic poems that i\'ve seen in alphabetic languages.



- palindromic poem (the entire poem is palindromic)

- word-unit palindrome (palindromic by individual words)

- palindromic verses (each line a palindrome)





Thanks for your input, and I wish others would make a com... See more
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On 2003-05-20 01:07, Kvasir wrote:

There are at least 3 different types of palindromic poems that i\'ve seen in alphabetic languages.



- palindromic poem (the entire poem is palindromic)

- word-unit palindrome (palindromic by individual words)

- palindromic verses (each line a palindrome)





Thanks for your input, and I wish others would make a comparison between Chinese palindromic poems and those in English and other languages.



Haven\'t studied the examples you put here, but let me guess: a Chinese palindromic can be a matter of effort, a palindromic poem in English or other similar languages would mostly be a matter of chance.



Will travel for a while, and wish you all a pleasant talk here!



Best regards

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Kvasir, Bill, Zhou Dan, also Kavin May 20, 2003

It\'s interesting to read your discussion here. I really love Chinese forum now. Kavin, do you remember the time when I had problem with a Taiwan company? I felt sorry I had messed you up in the case, but I really didn\'t expect it. I hope Micheal will like me, have forgotten the unhappy experience and look ahead for a better future. Now I think of our old friends, Doctor Bin Li, Xiaoping, Li-Chuan, David and a lot other professionals from main land China. I understand they must be there busy wi... See more
It\'s interesting to read your discussion here. I really love Chinese forum now. Kavin, do you remember the time when I had problem with a Taiwan company? I felt sorry I had messed you up in the case, but I really didn\'t expect it. I hope Micheal will like me, have forgotten the unhappy experience and look ahead for a better future. Now I think of our old friends, Doctor Bin Li, Xiaoping, Li-Chuan, David and a lot other professionals from main land China. I understand they must be there busy with their project and have interest in each post here just like me.



As I said, Micheal Bullock is my favourite poet. Here is another poem I want to share with you, and this poem I think is appropriate for this special forum:



Trees, River and Birds



The trees by the riverband

quiver as the water washes their roots



Their thrill of delight

reaches the birds on their branches



who begin to sing

with feathery vioces



songs that rustle past the leaves

on their way to the stars



--------Micheal Bullock

树、河、鸟



河畔的丛树

流水洗濯树根时轻轻抖动



它们欣悦的轻颜

传至枝头的鸟群



鸟儿开始歌唱

用轻柔如羽的鸣啭



歌声嗦嗦拂过叶簇

直通重星之处



----金圣华 译



Just let the threads here run on and on.
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chance (X)
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Congratulations on Bill's brilliancy Jul 24, 2003

http://www.proz.com/topic/12800?start=30

Claudia Iglesias wrote:12:45pm

You're brilliant Y_Bill

You've found a new way to answer to what hasn't been asked yet.

The only thing I wanted is to stop the discussion until we speak with Kevin. And I said we'd be back with feedback about the issue.

As my message wasn't clear, I'm lock
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http://www.proz.com/topic/12800?start=30

Claudia Iglesias wrote:12:45pm

You're brilliant Y_Bill

You've found a new way to answer to what hasn't been asked yet.

The only thing I wanted is to stop the discussion until we speak with Kevin. And I said we'd be back with feedback about the issue.

As my message wasn't clear, I'm locking the thread, Henry will see if he opens it later on.
Thanks for your understanding.

Claudia
[Edited at 2003-07-24 12:57]

Hi Bill,

Thanks to your brilliancy, it is really a pleasure to visit Forum now. Reading what is written by Claudia, I burst into laughter till the tears come.

My congratulations:

将进酒 李白

君不见黄河之水天上来, 奔流到海不复回?
君不见高堂明镜悲白发, 朝如青丝暮成雪?
人生得意须尽欢, 莫使金樽空对月。
天生我才必有用, 千金散尽还复来。
……
Cheers !
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May Poetic Beauty Prevail! Jul 24, 2003

chance wrote:
Hi Bill,

Thanks to your brilliancy, it is really a pleasure to visit Forum now. Reading what is written by Claudia, I burst into laughter till the tears come.

My congratulations:

将进酒 李白

君不见黄河之水天上来, 奔流到海不复回?
君不见高堂明镜悲白发, 朝如青丝暮成雪?
人生得意须尽欢, 莫使金樽空对月。
天生我才必有用, 千金散尽还复来。
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Cheers !


Hi Chance,

I wish everybody, I mean everybody, could breathe the fresh and purifying air of poetic beauty and feel the unique essence of Humanity.

In fact I don't believe in brilliancy, I believe in simplicity that is more shiningly powerful, like this poem:

使至塞上

王维

单车欲问边,属国过居延。
征蓬出汉塞,归雁入胡天。
大漠孤烟直,长河落日圆。
萧关逢候骑,都护在燕然。

Let's celebrate this beautiful simplicity and go for it.

Bill


 
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致候骑 Jul 24, 2003

Y_Bill wrote:

Hi Chance,

I wish everybody, I mean everybody, could breathe the fresh and purifying air of poetic beauty and feel the unique essence of Humanity.

In fact I don't believe in brilliancy, I believe in simplicity that is more shiningly powerful, like this poem:

使至塞上

王维

单车欲问边,属国过居延。
征蓬出汉塞,归雁入胡天。
大漠孤烟直,长河落日圆。
萧关逢候骑,都护在燕然。

Let's celebrate this beautiful simplicity and go for it.

Bill



我原来还以为只有我才崇尚simplicity!


 
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默狥℡﹡ --- 岸ゅ籔厩產 Aug 15, 2003

Y_Bill wrote:

Shall we have something nice and pleasant here?



Would you please tell us what your favorite Chinese poem is?



Let's enjoy the beauty of the Chinese language and forget about the hustle and bustle of the world for a short while, OK?



Bill



﹚猧 默庚

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λ▇綾淮秤皑街┤籦废獴ヴキネ

甼琄皊眶稬繷弊酚玱
ㄓ拷锋矪耴礚獴礚锤

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 默庚

ネㄢ 
ぃ秖 ︑螟а
ń﹖糥礚矪杠瞃睤 羇ㄏ硔莱ぃ醚
剐骸芀蛮
ㄓ冠┛临秏 
癮怠 タЗ
臮礚ē 暴Τ瞈︽
眔竮耞矪 
る 祏猀盺

叫︗蛔蛮泊みい稱钩帝ê稰玱祏既潮锭穦〃眔竮耞矪る祏猀盺〃; 〃祏〃縀癬辊禗ぃ荷瞒薄瞃贰礶虏琌礚猭甧/Georgia


 
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A link to English translations of some of the greatest Chinese poems Aug 26, 2003

Found this when surfing:

http://www.qfxl.com/yingyuwenxue/hansyy/hanshiyingyi.htm


Zhoudan


 
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白雪歌送武判官归京 Sep 12, 2003

初到贵地,请各位前辈多多指教!

我很喜欢岑参的这首,边塞风光和军中生活尽在其中,不知在哪里有好的英文版本?

北风卷地白草折,胡天八月即飞雪。
忽如一夜春风来,千树万树梨花开。
散入珠帘湿罗幕,狐裘不暖锦衾薄。
将军角弓不得控,都护铁衣冷犹著。
瀚海阑干百丈冰,愁云黪淡万里凝。
中军置酒饮归客,胡琴琵琶与羌笛。
纷纷暮雪下辕门,风掣红旗冻不翻。
轮台东门送君去,去时雪满天山路。
山回路转不见君,雪上空留马行处。


 
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You can find it in the link that Zhoudan posted here above. Sep 12, 2003

Thank you Zhoudan. I bookmarked it.

slosparrow wrote:

我很喜欢岑参的这首,边塞风光和军中生活尽在其中,不知在哪里有好的英文版本?


 
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我手里有一本吕叔湘编的书, Sep 12, 2003

slosparrow wrote:

初到贵地,请各位前辈多多指教!

我很喜欢岑参的这首"白雪歌送武判官归京",边塞风光和军中生活尽在其中,不知在哪里有好的英文版本?


里面有三个版本的英译! 我会慢慢…慢慢…慢慢地把它们打字出来. 请耐心等待…

slotypist


 
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Hi slotypist :-) Can you give us the title of the book? Thanks! :) Sep 13, 2003

Yongmei Liu wrote:

里面有三个版本的英译! 我会慢慢…慢慢…慢慢地把它们打字出来. 请耐心等待…

slotypist


 
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英译中诗词精华集 Sep 13, 2003

香港汇源出版社, 1960

我已经把第一种译文贴在新线上。第二、三大概要等到下星期。

I really AM a slow typist.

chance wrote:

Yongmei Liu wrote:

里面有三个版本的英译! 我会慢慢…慢慢…慢慢地把它们打字出来. 请耐心等待…

slotypist


 
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Some favourites Sep 30, 2003

Here are three favourites:

Wang Chang Ling - Two Beyond the Frontier Poems (Poem One)"In Qin times the bright moon",Du Fu - Pavilion Night,"Year end moon and sun press on the short day,",Zhu Shu Zhen - Butterfly loves the flowers Ci
"Outside the building weeping willows hundreds of thousands of strands,".Shall I post these here in Chinese?

Y_Bill wrote:

Shall we have something nice and pleasant here?



Would you please tell us what your favorite Chinese poem is?



Let's enjoy the beauty of the Chinese language and forget about the hustle and bustle of the world for a short while, OK?



Here is my favorite:



春江花月夜



张若虚



春江潮水连海平,海上明月共潮生。

滟滟随波千万里,何处春江无月明。

江流宛转绕芳甸,月照花林皆似霰。

空里流霜不觉飞,汀上白沙看不见。

江天一色无纤尘,皎皎空中孤月轮。

江畔何人初见月,江月何年初照人。

人生代代无穷已,江月年年只相似。

不知江月待何人,但见长江送流水。

白云一片去悠悠,青枫浦上不胜愁。

谁家今夜扁舟子,何处相思明月楼。

可怜楼上月徘徊,应照离人妆镜台。

玉户帘中卷不去,捣衣砧上拂还来。

此时相望不相闻,愿逐月华流照君。

鸿雁长飞光不度,鱼龙潜跃水成文。

昨夜闲潭梦落花,可怜春半不还家。

江水流春去欲尽,江潭落月复西斜。

斜月沉沉藏海雾,碣石潇湘无限路。

不知乘月几人归,落月摇情满江树。



And yours?



Bill


 
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My efforts at translating these famous Tang and Song poems (comments welcome) May 18, 2004

Wang Chang Ling - Two Beyond the Frontier Poems (Poem One)

In Qin times the bright moon in Han times the pass, 10,000 li long march people never return.
But make Longcheng's Flying General be there, don't let the Hu Horse across Yinshan .

Du Fu - Pavilion Night

Year end moon and sun press on the short day,
heaven's edge frost and snow clear the cold night.
Fifth watch drum and horn sounds solemn stirring,
Three Gorges star riv
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Wang Chang Ling - Two Beyond the Frontier Poems (Poem One)

In Qin times the bright moon in Han times the pass, 10,000 li long march people never return.
But make Longcheng's Flying General be there, don't let the Hu Horse across Yinshan .

Du Fu - Pavilion Night

Year end moon and sun press on the short day,
heaven's edge frost and snow clear the cold night.
Fifth watch drum and horn sounds solemn stirring,
Three Gorges star river reflections rock and waver.
The open-country cries the thousand families hear of war and offensives,
Yi songs in several places set off fishermen and woodcutters.
Sleeping Dragon, Leaping Horse in the end yellow earth,
human affairs, music, books, all over the place deserted lonely.

. In a ci to the tune of "Every Sound Lentemente", Li Qing Zhao wrote:

Search search seek seek, cold cold clear clear, bleak bleak sad sad alone alone. Sudden warmth turns to cold it's the time, when it's hardest to recuperate. Three cups two small cups of light wine, how can they match the evening wind with his noise! The wild geese pass by yes, and it really pains me, in the old days we knew each other.

All over the ground chrysanthemums heap up, withered and damaged, now who would pick them? Watching at the window, by myself how does it get so dark! The wutong tree is devoting itself to the drizzle, when dusk comes it's plop plop plip plip. All of these things, how could the one word 'ennui' suffice!


Zhu Shu Zhen "Butterfly loves the Flowers" - the subject is the poet's vexed mood in the spring.

Outside the building weeping willows hundreds of thousands of strands, I long to tether youth, short-staying spring moves on. As if I'm willow down floating at the front of the wind, I follow spring and then ask where's it gone?

Filled with green are the hills and streams a cuckoo can be heard, I suppose they do it unfeelingly, surely they also mean to upset me. Holding up my wine to send off spring spring doesn't speak, at dusk though there's a pattering rain.
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