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Market excesses Nov 22, 2007

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article2808876.ece



November 5, 2007

PetroChina tops Exxon as world's largest group
A 160 per cent jump in the first deals at the oil group propel it above Exxon as the world's largest company by market value

Jane Macartney in Beijing

PetroChina, Asia’s largest oil and gas company, became the world’s first company to be valued at more than $1 trillion (£480.38 billion) when asset-hungry Chinese investors piled in to buy shares on their debut yesterday.

Shares in PetroChina, listed at 16.70 yuan (£1.08), almost tripled in value with an opening price of 48.60 yuan, exceeding analysts’ expectations of 35 yuan and leapfrogging Exxon Mobil to become the world’s most valuable company by market capitalisation.

But PetroChina’s strong start on the Shanghai stock exchange was as much a warning of a growing Chinese market bubble as it was a reflection of investor demand.

Urging caution over investor fever on the Chinese markets, Wen Jiabao, the Chinese Premier, said: “The Government will take measures to prevent asset bubbles and avoid huge fluctuations in the stock market.”

Shares in PetroChina closed up 163 per cent at 43.96 yuan, or about 55 times earnings per share — far above the average of 18 times for oil firms globally but still below an average of about 80 times for other China-listed oil and gas stocks.

Exxon Mobil, by contrast, trades at about 13 times earnings.

In addition, PetroChina is far less profitable than its rival.

First-half results showed PetroChina’s net profit at $10.9 billion, compared with Exxon’s $19.5 billion.

Wang Jing, an analyst with Orient Securities in Shanghai, said: “The opening price is really too high as far as PetroChina’s corporate fundamentals are concerned.”





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I'd Be Careful Nov 22, 2007

Investing in each other's IPO's?

I agree with Alan Greenspan that this kind of market is a bubble waiting to burst - or more like a house of cards waiting to collapse; BTW it's just my opinion.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_48/b4060064.htm



[Edited at 2007-11-22 17:02]


 
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A Guinness Record Nov 22, 2007

Tallest House of Cards ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgrJuW_uKgI



[Edited at 2007-11-22 16:53]


 
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Transfer of Wealth Dec 19, 2007

China fund now has a 9.9% stake in Morgan Stanley ...

http://business.theage.com.au/china-fund-grabs-morgan-stanley-stake/20071220-1i5z.html


 
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Dire outlook for the near term U. S. economy Jan 17, 2008

http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/17/news/economy/fed_bernanke/index.htm?cnn=yes



Bernanke: Juice the economy 'quickly'
Fed chairman, urging lawmakers to boost consumer spending within 12 months, tags mortgage meltdown's cost at $100 billion or more.


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress Thursday that legislators should enact a fiscal stimulus package in order to help beleaguered consumers as recession fears grow.

The comments by Bernanke, who testified before the House Budget Committee, came as a cascade of more bad news about the housing, financial and manufacturing sectors stoked calls for decisive action.

"To be useful, a fiscal stimulus package should be implemented quickly and structured so that its effects on aggregate spending are felt as much as possible within the next twelve months or so," Bernanke said.



 
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我总觉得美国现在的问题不是技术性问题 Jan 17, 2008

应该对资本主义的基础理论质疑。美国除了极个别知识分子外,就没有人对基础理论提出疑问吗?如果只认为是技术问题,那就很难相对彻底地解决问题。就算渡过这个危机,下个危机还会接着来,以后不能像现在这样转嫁危机又该如何?

感谢你们的成功榜样和全球化,全世界都在“共同进步”。

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Dire outlook for the near term U. S. economy

http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/17/news/economy/fed_bernanke/index.htm?cnn=yes


 
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75 basis point rate cuts can't even sooth the markets Jan 22, 2008

http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/22/markets/markets_0945/index.htm?cnn=yes

 
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根士丹利王庆认为中国经济最大风险是美国经济不衰退 Jan 24, 2008

摩根士丹利王庆认为中国经济最大风险是美国经济不衰退

http://cn.biz.yahoo.com/08-01-/4/p9v1.html

[Edited at 2008-01-24 01:39]


 
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我正想问:国内股市没有受到太多影响吧? Jan 24, 2008

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摩根士丹利王庆认为中国经济最大风险是美国经济不衰退

http://cn.biz.yahoo.com/08-01-/4/p9v1.html

[Edited at 2008-01-24 01:39]


[Edited at 2008-01-24 10:43]


 
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股市非常动荡 Jan 24, 2008

两天跌去13%。这两天有所回升。

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Zhoudan wrote:

摩根士丹利王庆认为中国经济最大风险是美国经济不衰退

http://cn.biz.yahoo.com/08-01-/4/p9v1.html

[Edited at 2008-01-24 01:39]


 
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我怎么觉得中国银行没全部进入国际市场 Jan 24, 2008

应该不会受到太多影响。也许是人心不稳,造成动荡。

Zhoudan wrote:

两天跌去13%。这两天有所回升。



 
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中国股市一般是人祸 Jan 24, 2008

无论是涨还是跌,总是因为有人出来咕哝一下。前两天看到有一个证券公司的MSN上起了个名字,“网民说把马X 明拉出去毙了”
最近俺家相公没空管,交给我管。我反正有空就去银河证券的系统上瞄一眼。就不信逮捕到那小样的(赚钱,:D)


 
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你的帖子对我这个股盲就像密码,难以破解 Jan 24, 2008

你是想趁人抛售,低价买入?

借机问一句,你常看的“命运”网站是哪个?我今年不计划,想看看“命运”可以随愿

Zhiqin_Chen wrote:

无论是涨还是跌,总是因为有人出来咕哝一下。前两天看到有一个证券公司的MSN上起了个名字,“网民说把马X 明拉出去毙了”
最近俺家相公没空管,交给我管。我反正有空就去银河证券的系统上瞄一眼。就不信逮捕到那小样的(赚钱,:D)


 
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我就是一守株待兔的 Jan 25, 2008

Chance大姐,我现在正蛰伏着,等待时机抛出走人呢。不过每个股票不一样,此起彼伏。这个行情完了,那个可能又起来了。有的时候有可靠的消息倒是很好做。不过那个是要有代价的,比如铁的关系,或者金钱买来的。而且碰到大市不好,一个政策忽然出台,一般的庄家也是要倒霉的。政府只会照顾那些嫡系部队吧。有人用金钱买消息,人家告诉你某一只股票值得关注,但这个很可能是一个短期行为,马上追进,赚了一点走人。然后按照规定,把一定金额交给消息提供者。其实说起来这个都是违法的。

我说的那个系统是证券实时交易系统,银河证券的网站上可以下载。

我只看看价格,现在很多人都会看图形,我觉得什么技术面,基本面都抵不上领导的一句话。当然总体的走向还是很重要。

像我这样不爱动脑子,费功夫钻研的人,主要还是守株待兔啦。有人叫我割肉,我不舍得,嘿嘿。其实如果挪动一下,换换股票,早就出来了,但是我还是保守。那个纸上的钱看上去只是一个数字,改变一下很容易,噼啪一两分钟就完了,但是消失的钱不知道要花多长时间才能挣回来呢。


 
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那叫内线交易 Jan 25, 2008

Zhiqin_Chen wrote:

Chance大姐,我现在正蛰伏着,等待时机抛出走人呢。不过每个股票不一样,此起彼伏。这个行情完了,那个可能又起来了。有的时候有可靠的消息倒是很好做。不过那个是要有代价的,比如铁的关系,或者金钱买来的。而且碰到大市不好,一个政策忽然出台,一般的庄家也是要倒霉的。政府只会照顾那些嫡系部队吧。有人用金钱买消息,人家告诉你某一只股票值得关注,但这个很可能是一个短期行为,马上追进,赚了一点走人。然后按照规定,把一定金额交给消息提供者。其实说起来这个都是违法的。


那是严重破坏金融市场交易的公平性,确实违反道德,也因此法律有明文规定是违法的。在台湾连陈水扁总统的女婿和亲家都可以因此而被提起公诉,经过审判,定谳判刑的,谁也罩不住他们。


 
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